Scott: In your most recent book you talk about supplements. What are some of the key points that people should get out of that because it can be kind of overwhelming with all the products that are out there?

Dr. Hans J. Kugler, PhD: Absolutely right. Absolutely correct. Obviously, you know what's going on in this field right?  The very first thing where we want to focus is on the general vitamins and minerals. And again Professor Emanuel Cheraskin from Alabama University School of Medicine, who defined life long health as a state of homeostasis by doing so and so many things correctly, he looked at vitamin intakes. And guess what?  When he uses the Cornell Medical Index Questionnaire, they find for optimum functioning in respect to vitamin A is, for example, is four to six times the RDA. In respect to B vitamins it's four to six times the RDA. In respect to minerals most people are getting a reasonable amount, but not enough. So with the vitamins you need multiple of them for optimum health. With the minerals you just need a little bit more, but nobody literally nobody gets even the RDA of vitamins and minerals from the diet alone. So you need the supplements. That's the first level. 

The second level up is to look at inflammation. I mean, every disease has its onset with inflammation. I mean it's even in a normal bodily function. We touched on earlier sexual function. Flossing your teeth. What does that have to do with that?  Well, very simple because it causes inflammation. It is transmitted into the body. 

So you want to focus on for example fish oil, turmeric, or the actual ingredient from turmeric or cumin, alpha lipoic acid, and there's a whole bunch of new ones that are constantly being evaluated and so on. Get a good vitamin company, and have them send the catalog, and you read about it. 

Scott: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Hans J. Kugler, PhD: Anyway so you have the basics, you have the anti inflammatory, and then the next step up is for mitochondrial functioning. 

In your body in your cells you have the cell wall, you have the nucleus, and in the cytoplasm of the cell you have mitochondria. Those are the energy production factories. And the energy production factories again they are relying in their capacity on some very specific supplements. Again alpha lipoic acid, coenzyme Q10. I mean you can list the whole thing with them. And so those are the three major levels that people should pay attention to. 

Scott: Okay.

Dr. Hans J. Kugler, PhD: That's just the basic stuff. And then we go into the special area. For example heart disease, cancer, you name it.

 A very interesting thing was very recently with Parkinson's. They found that Parkinson's in the cell membrane of the nerve cells, you have a phospholipid. Right? Right?

Scott: Okay.

Dr. Hans J. Kugler, PhD: It's actually known as PC, phosphatidylcholine. And you can buy it. It's a supplement, and normally that is somewhat affected by the digestion process. So you have to take a little bit more, but it's totally natural, no problem, and some doctors even have developed an intravenous phosphatidylcholine formula. About two weeks ago, I talked to several doctors who are using it. When they use the intravenous together with the oral they see in some Parkinson's patients a reduction of 60 to 70% in the shaking.

Scott: Wow.

Dr. Hans J. Kugler, PhD: It's very impressive. Earlier we mentioned for example pomegranate. Pomegranate. When a doctor measures PSA in a man as you get older, and if the PSA increases, prostate specific antigen, PSA, he tries to evaluate how long it takes for that PSA to double. If it doubles relatively fast which is normally 12 months that's trouble maybe needing surgery, etc. 

However if you give people pomegranate, either the concentrate, or tablets, or whatever, or the regular pomegranate juice, whatever twice a day the doubling of the PSA takes as long as 57 months. So long that it becomes unimportant because you're going to be dead from something else by the time it reaches that level.   

There are so many different areas with many specific things. Like in my heart recovery, we took it the basics. A4M. I mean, the people at A4M leading people; I could name one of them after another who always told me, Hans, think outside the box. Inside the box is medicine. Forget it.  Outside the box is nutrient aggressive thinking along those lines. Right?