Scott: One of the treatments, you obviously did chemo, with your situation. What are you thoughts on those options now, surgery, chemo, radiation. Having been through it and seen people going through it, and now experiencing something different. What are your thoughts on those.
Jenny Hrbacek: Right. I think there is a time and a place for surgery. If you have a tumor that is pressing on the colon or in the pleural cavity, pressing on the lungs. Sometimes you do need to get that tumor removed. And that actually decreases the burden on the body of how much cancer it has to get rid of. So I'm not a proponent of not having surgery. What I disagree was with my doctors did not tell me there was absolutely no life, no change in statistics for survivability with the mastectomy versus a lumpectomy. Instead what they told me was, don't get the mastectomy because if you have a lumpectomy you have to have radiation and that ruins the tissue and the tissue will never heal well if you ever have another small tumor, we won't be able to do reconstruction. And so it was sold to me, that, just you know, just do it this way and get it all over with. But what I didn't understand was all I did by doing surgery was keep cancer from coming back in that tissue that they put in the trash can. I did nothing to keep cancer, breast cancer from coming back anywhere else in my body. And I thought I was beating breast cancer by just having all my breast tissue removed. And I was allowed to believe that. And I verbalized that, repeatedly throughout this journey. And I found that not to be true.
So I do think there's a place for surgery. I tell people, if it makes you feel good, and you can be confident going forward and doing integrative therapies, then you better get that lump removed. But I just think it's so important to heal the body. If you're constantly poisoning the body and you don't shore up your armies, how are you ever going to beat this?
So, surgery's controversial for me. Sometimes I tell people, you know, the lady with the ovarian, you might want to get your ovaries removed. You know? Get that out, and then lets get you on some integrative, you know, working with a great integrative physician, and lets, don't have this come back anywhere else.
Chemotherapy, I'm not a big fan of. But if you're going to have chemotherapy, there's IPT. Have you ever had anyone explain IPT?
Scott: Yep, insulin potentiation therapy
Hrbacek: Right, it's not as strong, but you're using the mechanism that the cancer cells feed on sugar to get the chemo right to the body. I know so many people that fail chemotherapy, but then there are people that do fine with it. But you are taking a toxic body and putting more poison in it. Instead of letting your body heal naturally, because the body is meant to heal. When you get a cut on your hand the body heals, you don't go put poison on the cut. But that's still how we're treating it. And we're still treating it that way because we're waiting for the lump or bump. People are so sick, it's hard for the body to overcome these huge tumors that people are being diagnosed with. But if you find it early, that's when you don't even qualify for chemotherapy, surgery and radiation. And that's what I love. When people can find it super early, they have the motivation um, to make a change.
I've had people tell me "Jenny, people don't want to know they have cancer." I'm like 'Yes they do!' I promise you the first thing if someone tells you you have cancer, that they ask you is you're going to say 'well how bad is it?' You want to know. And don't you want to know when its the size of this dot, this piece of, I put a little dot of ink on my finger. That's where the oncoblot or RGCC can find it, that small. Don't you want to know it's like that, instead of, you know the size of a marble? I'm like, believe me, you do want to know that you have it early. Because one out of two men, one out of two and a half women getting cancer, we can't hide from it anymore.
Jenny Hrbacek is a registered nurse who also had breast cancer. She went through therapies that her doctors recommended. After much research and authoring a book since, find out what she thinks now of the traditional treatments like surgery, chemotherapy and radiation.
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