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Interviewer: The {?) vaccine argument would say look at polio, once that
vaccine came out, and you're connected with that through your grandfather,
I believe you said, who was in on the vaccine when it started. They'll say
look, that's why we need vaccines, what's your argument?
Liam Scheff: That's what I said, I mean people would tell me that vaccines
weren't good, and I said well what about polio? Some people shrug their
shoulders and say, "Well I don't think..."
I don't know, when I came into it, I had some friends say, "Just go do the
research".
It was as though they were sending me on a mission. I had friends arguing
with me, and I said, "Well, what about..."
And they said, "Well I think it was other things, other things," and they
had convinced themselves, but I needed very, very, very specific evidence.
What was happening?
The interesting thing about polio is it's like AIDS, or it's like any other
large disease category. There's so many different things that are called
polio. If my leg tingled a little right now, or let's say I had a bad
cramp, and I was a certain age, and the cramp was persistent for a few
days, that would be polio, and it went away.
Let's say that I felt nauseous after going to the swimming pool in the
summer of 1948, that would be considered polio. Let's say that I was... god
forbid, that a small child becomes paralyzed, let's hope doesn't happen,
but it does, it did. After what? After going into the swimming pool, after
running behind the fogging truck. Well, what was the fogging truck?
They decided that the paralysis that they had seen some significant cases
of in the early 19th century were caused by a germ or something spread by
flies, and they decided to spray for those flies. So, they sprayed
something that you might remember from your history books, if you read
"Silent Spring" called DDT, which is a potent neurotoxin, which kills
insects, but of course has no effect on children. Right?
It's in my poster book, which is for sale; there are DDT advertisements
from the 50's, "Trims wall paper with DDT keeps your child safe. DDT is
good for me, it's great on cows, it's great in your milk, great on your
children". Well, this is a paralysis-inducing chemical compound, so polio
rates went up, but you could say, "What happened before that? Why was there
any paralysis in the early 20th century?"
A wonderful bit of history exists there, a doctor called Ralph Scoby
presented this to Congress in the early 50's, I want to say, when they were
trying to chase a bug that they wanted to blame for this. He said, "Well,
actually geniuses, we were spraying something on the fields in the fruit
that children are eating, and it was called Paris Green, it was called Lead
Arsenate. It's Lead and Arsenic, lead and arsenic, lead and arsenic, let's
see, it kills people, it kills people, okay, so maybe if you give this to
small children they might become paralyzed or die. Well that happened.
Then he was looking through... Janine Roberts wrote a wonderful article for
a scientific magazine, I can't remember at present, and Jim West did great
research in measuring the amount of DDT production in the incident of polio
cases. DDT and polio, DDT and polio, DDT and polio, huh? What a
coincidence, so let's look at the mainstream's proof. They decided that a
stomach bug was responsible. The stomach bug passes through the feces. It
comes out, nobody has any idea how it could possibly get into the nervous
system, or cause any kind of paralysis.
[inaudible 03:46] we're still working on it. They don't care, people
believe it. But they got rid of DDT and they put out a vaccine, After the
vaccine there was a spike in polio cases, because the vaccine caused
paralysis. It caused injury. So they said "Whoops, it was a bad batch".
Then they did something very clever, they decided that the polio that had
been polio wasn't polio anymore. In other words, if I had that cramp for
three days, I had polio. But, now I had to have that cramp for 60 days. I
had to have a cramp for two months, and the majority of polio cases in the
90th something percentile were the cramps that went away.
The CDC today says that the polio stomach bug causes paralysis, I mean I'd
like the audience to guess: What's the percentage of time that polio causes
polio? It would be depending on your definition of polio, right? Is it 50
percent? Is it 70? Their answer is .1 to .5 percent of the time. So, with
polio then becomes the virus that causes polio, except for 99.9% of the
time. And, that's them.
Do you believe them? I don't. You spray lead and arsenic, you give it to
kids, they called it the summer plague. What do you do in the summer? You
go to the pool. You eat the fruit. You eat sugar, lower your immune system.
There's great evidence for this. It's really there in the history books,
but we like to believe this myth, chapter five, hey it's in a book called
"Official Stories," chapter five.
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Many vaccine proponents will point to polio as a major reason for vaccines. Here, journalist Liam Scheff discusses polio and the vaccine and what might really be behind the major reduction in the disease over the years.
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